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Education System- Good or Bad?
« on: April 08, 2011, 03:49:19 PM »
I just watched a FALTU movie and didn't want to lose a chance to write what I always thought.

Education system in India & most of the other countries: Is it really Fair ?

Some people are smart and other are not that smart.Some pass with higher grades and some just manage to pass somehow. People then classify them as "Smart " and "Dumb".

Educational institutes specially in India demand higher percentage students to enroll in their college and what happens to the people those who just manage to pass? Those who just manage to get seat in the college for engineering and MBBS/BDS (doctor) or management studies are just surviving somehow. So many people commit suicide just because of this.

They teach us in schools,colleges and higher institutes that DO NOT BULLY , and don't discriminate people. Well that's not true. Colleges themselves create boundaries for people to separate them : Good students / bad students, Smart students/Dumb student, Rich /Poor Students.

We talk a lot about innovation isn't it ? Where is the innovation and Science when it comes to know the Requirements of the Student who is lacking in studies?

Parents should also learn about their children and about their likings. Parents just want their son/daughter to be something they like them to be. Its like pushing them so hard to achieve something that has no meaning for them even if they get it.

What I think is it doesn't matter what you do , how much you earn,what is your house like , doesn't matter what car you drive...at the end of the day all you need is a meal to survive isn't it?

I just wanted to get your views about this.

Do you think education systems are good enough?
Do they really see the potential in everyone?

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Education System- Good or Bad?
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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 04:54:27 PM »
nice topic..
 
i haven't seen the movie and i am not all that familiar with education system in India...but i do know somewhat that i've picked up from observation.....i don't like the fact kids don’t study anything on their own lol parents not only pay for school tuitions but also tutoring sessions....a child goes to school comes home and goes to tutoring sessions ...they just study whatever is taught at the sessions but don’t study on their own ...i didn't quite understand the purpose ...its like ur just memorizing for the sake of exams not because u want to learn but then again there are always children who want to learn n those that don’t......the other thing is most kids go to very expensive schools where some get in on their on when others get in because they know someone who can get them admitted there (how is that fair?)
 
education system- i believe its not all that great ...i feel that education system is just a business these days doesn’t matter what country it is... schools just want expand to gain maximum amount of profit without producing the same amount of output. rest it depends on how we look at it i guess
 
Yes, i do believe everyone has the potential... some people are just slow but it does not mean they are dumb ...some people are naturally intelligent and pick up on things much faster than others who work there a** off yet it’s always difficult for them to get the basics. 

anyhow, this is just my view ..you dont have to agree to it.

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 11:08:51 PM »
wth? this topic died too? no response :loll: i thought people would respond to this :hehe: i guess education isn't much of a deal to most  :laugh: :laugh:   hehe anyhow nice topic rahul :)

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2011, 12:22:55 AM »
Preet ji , If I had posted Shiela Ki jawani Song video people would comment one after another.
True that. people don't really have much of interest in studies

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2011, 12:29:53 AM »
Welll je kehna hove te I can just say ki Indian Education system is bad. BUT from Indian perspective that is the only system that will work at this time. That education system works for INDIA.

In India for 2750 seats in IIMs there are lakhs and lakhs of people who give the CAT exam with a supposed success rate of about one in two hundred getting thru. So you see the competition!! When parents urge (or literally force) their kids to study, they are trying to make this success rate to at least 10 in 200 for their kid. So I dont blame them. When there is competition there will be some criteria that schools have to rely on to eliminate and parents are just trying so that their kid can be in the creme.

Secondly - Why do Indian parents only want their kids to become engineers or doctors. because India is a developing country and these careers make a lot of money and respect in the society. Unlike developed nations, Developing countries have family who are looking for roti, kapda and makaan thru careers. They dont care if it is fancy or not.
Same thing if it was a developed nation, an artist, musician, painter, truck driver everyone makes that comfortable amout of money that is needed for survival. That is not the case in developing countries. They are choosing a career that will help them have comfortable roti, kapda and makaan.

So we have to see what makes the parents, the society do this to the kids and change that rather than just thinking that it is a wrong system. IT DEFINITELY IS WRONG, BUT IT WORKS for India.

RESERVATIONS,CORRUPTION in schools - those are a completely different topic to talk about.

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2011, 12:32:14 AM »
Preet ji , If I had posted Shiela Ki jawani Song video people would comment one after another.
True that. people don't really have much of interest in studies

:loll: :loll: I think it is just a serious topic for a friday night :happy:

But very nice topic!! I alwasy wonder about the difference and it is because of many reasons that we sometimes miss to take a look at.

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2011, 12:44:58 AM »
education system is good enough ....but u see d people who study hard r able to get admissions in good universties ....so education system is providing same platfrom to every individual ....now it matters on ur hard work ,,dat how u limelight urself ...

u say abt discrimination ..

well how can u imagine dat a person who sacrifice his golden life in hard work can sit same wid d person who enjoyed everytime ...

if we gave same respect to every lazy or hard worker student ....then..u can imagine ...everyone bcome lazy ....

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2011, 12:52:06 AM »
I agree that there are limited number of seats therefore they have to set higher education standards so only the genius get there. The problem in India is that there are not enough private sector jobs so everybody has to very common careers in which they could fins jobs like doctors, engineers, nursing etc etc. A truck driver can make anywhere from 50000 to 100000 in America whereas in India truck driving in India is a very low income job. Parents encourage their kids to higher standards in education because they know its the only way out in India. There are not many private jobs and not much industrialization yet. Because of bad parenting and values, these developed countries have shown they are way behind in education shown in an recent survey, India and china are way ahead. Much of software developers are Indians, many are doctors, engineers they are all outnumbering them in their own countries

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2011, 01:10:05 AM »
I Agree to most of you guys and quiet happy to see you people replying to this system.

Well I understand this thing that a Good student shouldn't be seating with a poor student. Well that is not discrimination i was referring too. I was looking at the same thing from different perspective.

Now if you want to get a seat in GOOD institutes , all you need is DONATION , make few lac rupees and there you go you have a seat.

We are not talking about how good we are in international market but hey ya we are good and working for OTHER nations rather than India.

Parents are pressurizing their kids to be Engineer and doctors now come on , if you don't have a interest and all you do is memorize stuff which has no meaning to you and even if you pass with good grades after that, doesn't really makes sense because thats not what you want ?
Lets keep the thread running.

I would like to see what others think too . thanks guys for your time

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2011, 01:13:56 AM »
nopes bro earlier america is known as land of oppurtunties ....but now india is land of oppurtunties ...cant' u see d growth at we r growing ,,nd for your information .i tell u dat within last years more thna 90 lakh profession jobs r created nd ....demand of indian professionals is growing even outside d boundries ..becoz of very well education dat we recieved over here ...

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2011, 01:18:23 AM »
yeah but u see dat d higly respected jobs like I.A.S ,I.P.S ..R FREE FROM ANY kind of donation nd those who realyy deserved dat position get it by burning d midnight oil..............well matter of parents pressure is tottally depend upon d kids ,,,,now dey r smart enough to choose wht carrear they want in life ....pressure is on dat students who r not dng anything ..just waste thier parent money ....

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2011, 01:24:07 AM »
Codename veerG...100% agreed...as depicted in film 3 idiots, indian education system is not on the creative side, it is all based on memorization where student doesnt learn anything...mein 7vii tak india ch parriya aa, mein 7vii ch algebra karda sii te america ch aake ohi algebra university di requirement ch aunda...india's education is very tough i must say...eh jehri vaddiyan gharran de munde kurriyan di easily paise lei ke dakhle lein di gall aa then well its india and it happens only in india

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2011, 01:28:49 AM »
par bai ji oh college vi eda de hunde ne .jihna ch paise deke admission mildi wa ,,


institutes like IIM..IIT ....WHICH PRODUCE ,,,professionls nd most of them r recruited by big american MNC'S....r d biggest examples fro those who say india education system is not good enough

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 01:31:08 AM »
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Parents are pressurizing their kids to be Engineer and doctors now come on , if you don't have a interest and all you do is memorize stuff which has no meaning to you and even if you pass with good grades after that, doesn't really makes sense because thats not what you want ?


Okay I am going to be in the parents shoes and answer this.
First off - Studies have shown that asian kids are more likely to look up to their parents for choosing their career than other kids because thats the way we are brought up. Any important decision we want to make we look up to our parents.  (I am not finding the TED talk about this but I will post it once I find it).

Secondly the suucess rate is what parents look at when they ask their kids to become engineers or doctors etc. When a parent in India sees that 90% of the engineers, doctors, scientists are successful and 90% of the singers are un-successful what would one expect for parents to encourage their kids to do?
They cannot have a failure. In India 1 person feeds a family, it is not about trying and doing stuff. Its about survival.

I know that this shoudl not be promoted, but I think I can see where the parents are coming from.

I also think that once the nation is developed and 1 person has less number of dependents, the pressure will be less and things will change.

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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 01:34:58 AM »
I AGREE WIDH TITLEE

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2011, 01:36:09 AM »
Sekhon veer main kadhon kiha indian system is not bad more emphasia shouls be on the creative side by knowing the answers rather than Word by word memorizing...ratte launa menu te nai lagda changi gall aa...Baaki jive tuhadi udd dii aa udaii javo :rockon:

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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2011, 01:38:43 AM »
raate laun nu kaun kehde veere ,,,raate waliya de din vi thode hunde ,,,ha school ch jaroor ratte lag jand ene ,,,par age jaake ta knwoledge hi kam aundi wa ,,,

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2011, 01:39:04 AM »
Codename veerG...100% agreed...as depicted in film 3 idiots, indian education system is not on the creative side, it is all based on memorization where student doesnt learn anything...mein 7vii tak india ch parriya aa, mein 7vii ch algebra karda sii te america ch aake ohi algebra university di requirement ch aunda...india's education is very tough i must say...eh jehri vaddiyan gharran de munde kurriyan di easily paise lei ke dakhle lein di gall aa then well its india and it happens only in india

I agree with you that Indian education system does not encourage creativity but does the Indian system pay the creative people. Once that changes the school pressure will definitely reduce.

Also - I can tell you that Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Stanford .. all these universities actually admit kids of the trustees even though there are better candidates with better scores and better ECs. I think this happens in every country. I wish My dad studied in Stanford :happy: 


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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2011, 01:51:36 AM »
Oh tan hai titlee jii...favoring tan har paase hii hundi aa par atleast who deserve should be there...gall rahi Land of opportunities di tan it means i can still achieve everthing or even better than that of wit higher education...i can drive a truck, open a small shop, invent something, work as many jobs, have security if i lose a job or if disability...how is india land of opportunities wit just education with 60% of its population living under poverty line...jithe dihari de sirf 150 rupaiye milde ne te gandey 50 rupee kilo ne..these opporunities u read about is for big companies...common man is way behind this corporate world

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Re: Education System- Good or Bad?
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2011, 01:55:16 AM »
The Indian education system is pretty good, but as with all other avenues it as been completely corrupted and its value undermined as a result. An Indian degree for this reason does not have too much value elsewhere, because most people know how easy it to buy a degree here. Apart from that leaking of papers are common place. The system itself in certain fields of education is extremely backward and too rigid with no scope for diversification.
I guess the biggest problem here is the lack of respect for teachers and the attitude of the government towards its educators.

 

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